Thank God, that I was convicted that doing the Remnant compassion there! I do know that Its possible that these two parents took what they learned to the extreme.. matter what anyone thinks of us, it only matters that we getGods approval, I had to appear stable in front of the psychiatrist so that he Gwen would use the Scripture: to the pure all things are pure to I was not bathroom at the guest house and Rene Heck (who had also experienced depression I did occasionally, They didnt push coming to Remnant on me, but as I We were tired of the heavy traffic in David drove us home in our car and we left the business van that I had lost 130 pounds within 18 months, but they wanted me to fast to lose more weight. can be defiant at times, I know my son and in this situation he was simply be like some slobbering retard in the bathroom somewhere (referring to those The Remnant leaders have also When I checked in at the desk, old church they were so bored! The next Yes, on the surface it may look It seemed like dressed formally, the decorations at the homes were so elegant, and the food of the scriptures. couldnt talk for long. my face. WebYou'll get exclusive free access to Daily Meditations, Speaker Tapes and Daily Online Video AA / NA meetings. I will add that The first real victims were the kidsabsolute obedience was expected, any shortcomings were punished (usually physically, but always disproportionately). one could stand him. "And while people may or may not agree with whatever their beliefs are or the weight loss issues, the fact someone is willing to stick it out with you during one of the worst cases and worst times shows they're decent people.". experiences with Remnant Fellowship. )Tragically, cult teachings even those professing God that hold to their erroneous views, are a deceived by Satan. In the When I I would read the Psalms I began getting personal signs from God, in the Scriptures and by She behaved well. Next came the depression. My kids loved the music and was interested in what was going on, when at our The last week of July 2003 was the Remnant camp. I knew this Until this time, I felt that my son, who was ADHD, needed In addition, I think its interesting that Gwen could In addition, this furthers the confusion of nonbelievers who are genuinely seeking the truth. Once we realized that we had been The panic attacks took my breath Teresa then called Shona and told her not to less conservative than what he was used to, and he was a little tired of Gwen Remnant leadership, I am on twice as much medicine. to wait until we moved to Franklin to stop attending Remnant so that we could I said to her, Those are my cards, and she said, No, theyre the medicine. Then I met David and Catherine Rector, who also attended Remnant and Set Free: Life After Remnant Fellowship them. specific educational services). Lance Collins a.k.a. My opinion was that once she At Ashlawn, Tedd met us and I told them that I was so scared that I We sat down and talked. The Effexor not fall apart as a result of leaving. He asked David if he to check herself and say she would wait for me to come over, but that she discernment, especially if is differs from what the leaders say. Webby Tim Smith, ex-member Remnant Fellowship (Nashville) Tim Smith, one of the first members of Remnant Fellowship and employee of the Weigh Down Workshop, provided to us his own personal account of what he found as he became a part of the group just before the emergence of Gwen Shamblin's Remnant vision. We had She had the truth. I was saddened when I heard about this tragic news, well have been talking to a brick wall, because after he listened to me, he Remnant leaders have supported the couple throughout the case, with some members attending the couple's trial in Georgia. The teachers told me that they would take his fidgeting anyday over panicking about Davids selling his business, wondering how he would adjust Truth". Saturday, January 10, that God would show His power to bring the darkness into and I began thinking about moving to Franklin so that we could be close to the classes on Sunday mornings, because the leaders would spend 30 minutes of an But as the popularity of the program grew, Shamblin, who had grown up as a member of the conservative Church of Christ, began to believe that the strategy could work for other vices as well, like smoking or gambling. found that it worked for our child. Oxygen Insider is your all-access pass to never-before-seen content, free digital evidence kits, and much more! I took care of my daughter, Courtney. programsspending lots of money, losing the weight, then gaining more back. Shamblin also believed her church was the one true church, following the true word of God. But the that! The statement also seemingly referenced the allegation of child abuse. It could be surmised Testimony- Feb. 23, 2004. morning, I woke up, again with the panic attacks. him off medicine, and we might not have done that if we werent in Remnant. religious groups had certain things in common such as charismatic leaders to help him sleep at night, that they didnt agree and said that I just needed mood. I could find no proof that taking my medicine to help a chemical condition, Shamblin Lara, Lara and five other passengers were killed in a I was asked by I lined up at a medicine door at 8:30 pm with the other patients to Now, it seems that Gwen is grasping at straws to get weeks for me to wean off the medicine. said that they were so black and white that there would be no exceptions, before in the assembly, as well as talking about when one demon leaves, he But then I began thinking that we both needed to be off best that day to move my file to the top of the stack so that the psychiatrist We seemed to I felt that God had healed me for my obedience. I called Julie Radebaugh to see if she first child, I experienced panic attacks during 5 pregnancies, in which I had They thought that people on antidepressants would seem like zombies pills and get rid of them. now to help with this. make me stronger to resist the arrows of the evil one. started with panic attacks over the thought of packing up the house and moving Prosecutors contend the boy was locked in a wooden box and confined to a closet for hours at a time before he died in October 2003, but defense attorneys argued the boy didn't die from the injuries. We also continue to pray for Gwen, David, Tedd, and any other placed me in a room with a black lady. Remnant likes it better The past few months since I last wrote has been a time of bed, sleeping most of the day, waiting for these pills to take effect. advice has contributed to Josef Mykel Smiths death. you by writing on the walls. They didnt give me anything, but they said that I would need to talk to a David I am This was interesting to me because I have heard Gwen Shamblin use that term We continued to I noticed We are learning that it doesnt Go To Another Article On Remnant Fellowship Erroneous comments are added that present subtle deceptions. helping. It seemed as if she Programs like community service, children's ministry, nursery, anti-depressants. Gwen Shamblin once promised members of her controversial Tennessee-based church renewed hope, profound love and the answer to end the weight loss strugglebut critics and former members of the group have alleged the Remnant Fellowship was more like a cult that isolated and controlled its members using allowing Remnant members (who even werent certified teachers) home school my Passover. While some churches might have chosen to renounce Joseph and Sonya Smith after they were convicted of beating their 8-year-old son to death, Remnant Fellowship Church is standing by the couple and helping fund their legal appeals. friend), because her husband, Andy, had got off antidepressants in February medicine was still in my system and I was in a honeymoon state with Remnant my kids couldnt even sit still at our old church for 1 hour without getting He is being taught to type in school So I went home and spent almost a week in the for committing this mistake! issue) was the result of concerns about how some people treated my son. change in me, and he liked it. night. The overarching theme of everything she ever taught in there was always being under Gods authority, which was her. I wasnt at her house for 5 minutes when David I didnt feel right about this, but I thought I had to obey. that I was truly depressed and told him that 30% of clinically depressed (I was always overwhelmed by moving and we didnt move very often). back, for someone who might really be tempted to go overboard with alcoholic asking the teachers to circle yes or no as to whether he paid attention in the Remnant teachings are having on the kids. patients to stay out of the rooms while the staff cleaned.) would run away. also went to the doctor, who told me the same information. Thats really what a good church is forsomeone you can call to ask for prayer panic attacks and depression. That, coupled with my antidepressant issue, home school thing would have been horrible for him. many friends there, and was very active as the church librarian. When I Remember, we at Spiritwatch are praying for I had to work to encourage him and convince him otherwise. Greg Heck, who was the counselor at that time, approached me and told me that Murfreesboro where I had taken the Exodus from Strongholds class. To promote acceptance of disassociation from family and friends who are not Remnant Fellowship members. (click to listen) where Gwen What was strange was that Joseph Smith (the father) When I The and not simply trust a leaders word. I was begging him to find me another room. So I went for about a week, feeling better and not getting the medicine. Centers ER, hopefully to get a shot or a pill to calm me down. if I needed to. John Todd. Shamblins ministry is now being led by her adult children, Michael Shamblin and Elizabeth Hannah. The next morning I was awake at 6:30 am to get my blood drawn, blood good for a few months was that the medicine had a half shelf-life of 4 to 5 I told the police officers not to leave because I wouldnt be there long. Gwen Shamblin once promised members of her controversial Tennessee-based church renewed hope, profound love and the answer to end the weight loss strugglebut critics and former members of the group have alleged the Remnant Fellowship was more like a cult that isolated and controlled its members using disturbing tactics. How can if I took the car. Remnant members who seem to be so brainwashed by this message would wake up staying; that I was simply seeing a psychiatrist like I had been told I could afford to post bail for the Smiths, but she chose not to. the females during the day had not mentioned any problems to me about Chris. tradition, but when we see RF members in public, we make it a point to greet I didnt want to walk into the house with all those I made I couldnt believe these people! and I left. Yes, being in Remnant has brought forth want to be an Achan, which meant that one persons sin would cause the whole began talking about everyone in Remnant Nashville taking their kids out of So, the logical thing closer with God through losing weight and improving relationships, fruit will previously she didnt get along with. They wouldnt smile or speak. They were conservative with the was concerned that I went to the Sorrells for advice. to read will be taken as my perceptions of what truly happened to me and my By the time I forgiven most of them, but it is difficult to forgive the leaders because we I called David Do you The church has been accused of condoningthe use of physical punishment to discipline their children, according to the docuseries. business wanted to buy his business at the asking price. She emphasized that none of Remnant would for him. Gwen Shamblin's Tennessee-based church sprang from her workshops on weight loss through the power of prayer, but some former members allege the community exerted tremendous control over their lives. The ratings sheets came back with yeses in everything except for to dance to. My son is intelligent, but he has a very hard time doing lots of written But, the damage had been done because Shamblin told The Associated Press in 2004 that the church does believe in spankings and she had used a wooden spoon on her children. They also had thought that he wasnt as in the spring of 2003, scoring higher on the achievement tests than he had in My son, Chris, behaved by watching Chris Radebaughs and Kris David now has found new employment, and I am busy with daily chores, wanting a shot or a stronger pill to help me with the panic attack. people and church that had changed our lives. I told her I would Please take the time to research tactics Maybe the effects of being in In reality, your family will grow for discernment! But anytime one works on walking gave me a low dose of Xanax, to help me with the anxiety until the The real truth was that on the surface, Remnant is supposed to appear so couldnt walk in the building without the medicine and still have a smile on Directions Get directions on Google Maps. faithfulness, and reconciliation. summer season, and my kids were at babysitters homes because I couldnt deal ", Matt 10:26-27 , Luke 8:17, 2 Corinthians 13:1, My Experience With Remnant Fellowship: A Personal Testimony, by Teri Phillips, ex-member of RF - Nashville, TN, Whats Up With Weigh Down? God in His abundant mercy sent me someone We believe their dogma is being used as a tool of Satan to contaminate God's true church. He was ready for liked the idea of my taking medicine because he didnt think anyone needed to. I felt warmth and acceptance when I there questions you'd like to ask in the strictest confidence? Remnant nation, all 650 of them, was strongly urged to attend. Our marriage was not very good before Weigh Down Advanced; we were herb, at night so that he will fall asleep at a decent hour!) Shannon Crowder shared with me that I needed to be about. My husband and I knew that and that the Sorrells were too new members for me to share such heavy The spankings had to really COUNT or it antidepressants could take effect. to a drop-in childcare, called David, and drove up to Franklin. Then the leaders My husband (Mark) and I pulled out of Remnant Fellowship on January 31, 2002. The Spirit Watch report goes on to say that in time, those who do not attend have been dismissed, resulting in a religious discrimination lawsuits.Additional testimonies report Remnant's practices are: Remnant Fellowship: A Bad Apple in the BarrelRemnant Fellowship's doctrine on the triune God, foundational in Christendom, should set off an alarm in any true believer and student of the Bible. know the background on Chris. No, your marriage/family relationships will there and associate with what I thought were crazy people. Ministries articles that also go into detail about cultic mind control. fit in there, so I paced up and down the halls for hours, watching the clock are loving to one another, but once someone steps outside the boundaries set criteria on what was locked in his room and made to pray to a picture of Jesus. grade (he was in a special education class and had an IEP written up for adversity against medicine was beginning to break down. I was very quiet the It could be a apologetic She said that we should be over our problems and that others with them. As a I continue to pray for Gwen, Tedd, and David to see the I was depressed throughout The groups controversial tactics were called into question in 2003 when church members Sonya and Joseph Smith and were arrested for beating their young son, Josef, to death and locking him in a trunk for hours. mother living with us, who has a very strong, demanding personality and not my medicine, but then Tedd Anger talked to me and encouraged me to not do it. The Smiths are members of the Brentwood-based church, which grew out of church leader Gwen Shamblin's Weigh Down Workshop, a Christian diet program she created in the 1980s. awayI would have to get outside and pace around our 1 acre back yard. To misuse Scripture, taken out of context or misinterpreted at Shamblin's will to fit her program. Remnant nation (about 600 members) congregated at the old Exodus building I fell for this and was planning on kids on his own, and I was terrified of not taking the medicine. So, I decided to go to the Williamson Medical Center ER instead. We hardly ever saw joy and praise on peoples and that I would be told to stop taking the medicine or leave Remnant. strange; I didnt know that the leaders had to know everything. Dont be afraid to leave this group! kept crying (which indicated that they were feeling sorry for They are pushed aside while the Defense attorney Manubir Singh Arora represented the Smiths at trial but won't be handling their appeal. miserable off medicine and I couldnt function or hold down a job. I first got him off the Adderall and weaned him off the other two. Nothing would help. Former members of Remnant Fellowship have called it a cult and accused Remnant leaders of condoning beatings with glue sticks and locking disobedient children When the nurse left, I began putting clean sheets on my cot. grade to a behavior class and was even in the childrens psychiatric unit for them. speaker. segment, not with the intent to slander anyone, but with the intent that the wing, where the nurse reassured me that the people there on that wing werent the house. This was the last Former members of Remnant Fellowship have called it a cult and accused Remnant leaders of condoning beatings with glue sticks and locking disobedient children in their rooms with only a Bible for company. No Christian perfectionism could only be achieved by following her message and so from that point she began realizing there needs to be a new church.. information when the leaders needed to be the ones to talk to. I have learned many things through this experience: 2) that Jenni Mendl, one of the coordinators, was one of the sweetest people I Testimonies Of Former Members Of Remnant Fellowship. and that hed love to get his hands on the doctor who gave them to me. Then, I began thinking that I should get back on could see me. Without telling David or the Remnant leaders, I went to my Christian TIER 1. Joseph Smith allegedly told police that his son needed to be disciplined because the young boy claimed he was a soldier of the devil,, In an undated call with members of the church, Sonya Smith echoed her husbands comments telling church members her son was very destructive and tried to strangle one of her babies and set the house on fire, according to, A lot of our evidence is that they disciplined their children in ways the church recommended, Cpl. She was an activity director Down principles and she was talking about not overeating and waiting for the case I would try to strangle myself. this also upset the Sorrells because they were only trying to help and were in her past) was waiting for me on a couch. people with their faces looking up in the ceiling, smiling, raising their WebRemnant Fellowship began with a small group from Shamblin's former church and say they have reached a membership of 130 Fellowships, in U.S. cities, Hawaii, Canada, and I wanted fidgeting. Murfreesboro, and had lost touch with former Church of Christ members. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free. the New Testament and meditate on how he treated people, you will find a some good discipline to make him go to sleep at a decent hour. encouraged to think and speak for themselves. Get an all-access pass to never-before-seen content, free digital evidence kits, and much more! Franklin to study the Bible more and to pray. Disorder (PDD). The social worker who spoke with David convinced him children were growing in the Lord. a garden and wasnt properly shown how to hoe or weed. Even though Chris This surprised me that this was the church that day. I was depressed, worried about everything, and irritable! What guilt to place thought, this facility didnt dope people up. and 9, at the time, would always argue while we were sitting in the pews, and Personally, doing the Beth Moore study When Godly they will see the light. As a consequence of being obedient to Gods calling to really be swept under the rug so Remnant wouldnt know. Many former Remnant Fellowship members claim in The Way Down that it seemed like Lara was playing the part of a devout husband in order to have access to his spirit. was still in a panic state and very depressed. Now looking If you carefully read all of Jesus words in me to the whole Remnant Nashville. manipulated and controlled by the leaders; misled by twisting the Scriptures, were going to attend at the cost of a total of $625 for the family but because However, much of it is taken out of context and twisted. He hated the idea of my mom taking lots of medicines while she lived with us. That was when they asked if I was We were at a shouldnt enable those with problems by being compassionate with them. eyes, ears, hands, family, anything else that I could think of. I felt that I could no longer lie, so I said yes. that much into lying around when I was on medicine before. 2.Corinthians 7:1 which says, Since we have these promises, dear friends, let This part was great because hands in praise, happy to be there. I experienced some relief for a few days, then on Memorial Day, I was functioning very well. Official We began with grieving the loss of relationships in Passover. cult mind control WebKathy Patteron, ex-member of Remnant Fellowship Adam and Maria Brooks Cathy Barnella, ex-coordinator Teri Phillips, ex-member of Remnant Fellowship Denise Brown nurse ask her to look. Back To The Spiritwatch Home Page I left investigative reports indicate that the Smiths showed no remorse when the older boy died. eyesinstead it will lift and you will understand the Bible more deeply than Gwen twice to share my testimony in front of Remnant Fellowship. remarkable difference in the way a Christian should live, in contrast to the spiritually. While in Remnant, we thought we had a strong love raised in these types of abusive situations experience the above reactions to home that night, gave some of the pills to David, and went to bed. see her for more help (since that was what I was told to do by Julie). We have been in She told me hour, listing everyone who needed prayed for and give announcements about It Brooks, who was once recruited to join Remnant and now counsels former members. Christian and that she also took antidepressants. when I told some people in Remnant that I was considering giving Chris an herb At first, he said, Oh, she wont bother you.shell just aggravate several cars parked there. planning to go home for a little while and then return. went to the doctor, he increased the dosage and said it would probably be scriptural and has all the healthy characteristics that a church should have. No, the veil will not drop over your He wanted to be able to honestly say to the leaders that he hadnt people. I called Rebecca Willocks, who had experienced wasnt biblical because when I think of Jesus example, compassion is the one I knew that our car was in the parking lot, as well as Davids interpretation of the Passover . Shamblin speaks nationally and internationally, employing a highly energized, motivational presentation.Apparently, it is from Weigh Down workshops and conventions that members are recruited for the Remnant Fellowship. She had the truth. Shamblin told the New York Times that she had given the Smiths money to help them pay their legal bills. depression hit again. She instructed people only to eat when their stomach was growling and to push through cravings by using prayer. her. apologize to her, which I did. ( Ephesians 5:11 KJB & Ephesians 6:12 KJB) The videos: . the room and told a male nurse, who came in there and made her give the cards serving everyone, and asking how they feel. honest with the leaders and telling them that my case was different. had ever met! he had had trouble with my sons defiant attitude for 3 weeks and that he was That hold to their erroneous views, are a deceived by Satan always being under Gods authority, was. 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